CA Gov. Newsom Retreats After Ben Shapiro Shreds ICE Terrorism Smear in Viral Podcast Clash
A Governor Backpedals as Outrage Erupts Over ICE ‘Terrorism’ Label
‘If you label our law enforcement as terrorists, where does it stop?’ – Ben Shapiro, on the explosive Newsom podcast showdown.
California Governor Gavin Newsom finally caved during a high-voltage podcast face-off with conservative host Ben Shapiro-walking back his press office’s claim that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers committed “state-sponsored terrorism” in Minneapolis. The stinging retraction came after days of mounting conservative criticism and even pushback from moderates, igniting a storm sure to shake up Newsom’s national ambitions.
With the 2028 Democratic primary looming ever closer, Newsom’s abrupt reversal came as activists and progressive pundits-including MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan-called for his head for daring to agree with Ben Shapiro on-air that “ICE officers obviously are not terrorists.” Social media lit up, with the #NewsomWalkback hashtag trending and both the far left and Fox News anchors dissecting every word of the governor’s statement. The reverberations were instant: Gavin Newsom abandoned the left’s hardline narrative against ICE, only to find himself isolated from both progressives and common-sense conservatives, who saw his shift as little more than political theater.
But beneath the circus, the tragic incident that ignited the firestorm remains unresolved. On January 7, ICE agents shot and killed Minneapolis resident Renee Good during a chaotic confrontation. While the facts on the ground revealed a tense standoff with officers-with Good allegedly reversing and then driving forward toward agents, before being fatally shot-Newsom’s office immediately seized on the tragedy, blasting out a tweet branding ICE as perpetrators of “state-sponsored terror.” Outrage ensued, not only among law enforcement but also from average Americans sick of seeing their country’s defenders constantly vilified.
Gavin Newsom agreed it’s ‘not fair’ to call ICE officers terrorists, a move that left radical activists reeling. The left howled betrayal, but many law enforcement families breathed a sigh of relief: ‘Finally, a Democrat admits the truth!’
The gasoline was poured when Ben Shapiro pressed Newsom directly on his own podcast, forcing the governor to finally concede that painting ICE with the terrorism brush was “not fair”-an answer heard around the political world. The headline on Fox News was clear: Newsom steps away from the abyss. But his acrobatics only enraged progressives, with Mehdi Hasan and Portside writers calling Newsom’s change of heart a signal that Democratic elites will never put principles over polling.
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The ramifications for 2028 are seismic. Until now, Newsom enjoyed a cushy perch as liberal America’s golden boy, swatting away moderate Democrats while openly flirting with presidential ambitions. But the Shapiro ambush marked a rare moment of conservative triumph in the culture wars, stripping Newsom of his progressive armor right before the primary’s opening battles.
Here’s how it blew up: Days after the tragic Minneapolis ICE shooting of Renee Good, Newsom’s comms team fired out a post declaring, “Our ICE officers obviously are not terrorists.” The problem? The governor himself had just condoned language equating ICE operations to terrorism-playing directly into the left-wing echo chamber. Ben Shapiro, ever the tactician, pressed Newsom in front of a national audience. Forced to confront the facts, Newsom admitted, “That’s fair,” while also parroting bromides about California’s extensive cooperation with more than 10,000 ICE transfers since 2019. The contradiction sent Twitter’s activists wild.
And then came the backlash. Mehdi Hasan, never one to mince words, attacked Newsom for “giving cover to a lawless, rogue agency,” warning Democratic primary voters to boycott candidates unwilling to call for ICE’s abolition. Meanwhile, Diana Crofts-Pelayo, Newsom’s own deputy communications director, tried to douse the flames by repeating that “Everyday Americans are experiencing state-sponsored terror by our incompetent president,” doubling down even as her boss tried to distance himself from the claim in response to mounting national uproar. It was a communications disaster, straight out of a political science textbook.
Newsom’s podcast stumble exposed deep Democratic fractures-while the GOP cheered the return of basic law and order values. ‘If Newsom can’t even handle a podcast, how’s he going to take on President Trump in ’28?’ one Republican consultant sneered.
Compounding matters was news that Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem had labeled the shooting “domestic terrorism” minutes after it happened, even as the DOJ declined to pursue a civil rights case-a noteworthy shift from Obama-era reflexes. Six federal prosecutors resigned in protest, blowing the controversy wider open and exposing the cracks in Democratic messaging. The left is furious not only at Noem and ICE, but now at Newsom himself for what they call political waffling as he courts the centrist vote.
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The narrative, as always, is more complicated than the slogans. According to detailed incident reports and released 911 audio, Renee Good-a 37-year-old U.S. citizen and mother of three-died after apparently reversing and then accelerating her vehicle toward ICE agents during an enforcement action. She was struck by multiple gunshots to the chest, arm, and reportedly the side of her head. Left behind are grieving family members and a shaken city, as well as a volcano of political spin seeking to leverage the facts for their cause.
Yet the Department of Justice, under pressure from President Trump’s White House, declined to open a civil rights investigation, while six prosecutors resigned after being allegedly told by D.C. brass to investigate Good’s widow, not the shooter. Meanwhile, the family has hired the George Floyd legal team to pursue their own case, calling Good “an agent of peace.” The legal and political machinations have done nothing to heal a wounded, exhausted public. And when, just days ago, another ICE agent shot a Venezuelan national involved in a street struggle, protests reignited across Minneapolis-giving radicals and activists even more ammunition.
Media spin from left to right has only amplified the anger. As Governor Newsom learned, the American public wants facts, not demagoguery. Law enforcement has a right to self-defense-no matter what political opportunists claim.
President Trump’s administration, meanwhile, is standing like a wall behind ICE, sending hundreds more agents to Minneapolis and reminding Americans why law and order remains a winning message. Kristi Noem remains defiant, and the left’s confusion is further exposed every day: Do they support law enforcement, or only when it’s politically convenient? Newsom’s downfall this week shows the perils of pandering to both sides-it ends in disaster.
As 2028 looms, one lesson is clear: Conservatives won’t let America’s defenders be smeared as terrorists. And if Democrats can’t even agree on something as basic as backing their own agencies, they’re in for a bruising at the ballot box. As one prominent ICE union leader said, “If Newsom doesn’t stand with us, who will?” For millions of American patriots, there’s only one answer-Donald J. Trump, law and order president, whose reelection in 2024 proved the silent majority is silent no more.